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"ASEAN Must Not Fall into Military's Trap," Warns Myanmar's Democratic Government

Exclusive Interview with Sai Khaing Myo Tun, Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs of Myanmar's Democratic National Unity Government (NUG)


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It has been five years and five months since the Myanmar military staged a coup on February 1, 2021. The resistance, which began with street protests opposing the coup, has expanded into a nationwide armed conflict, and fighting continues between the military, the People's Defense Force (PDF) under the National Unity Government (NUG), and ethnic armed organizations.

The United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) estimates that more than 16 million people in Myanmar are in need of humanitarian assistance, and approximately 3.8 million people are internally displaced. According to the Assistance Association for Political Prisoners (AAPP), as of July 20, the number of people confirmed killed by the military and pro-military forces since the coup is 8,186. A total of 31,539 people have been arrested by the military, with 14,581 of them confirmed to be currently in detention.

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ASEAN foreign ministers attending the ASEAN Foreign Ministers' Meeting held in Manila, Philippines, from July 21 to 23, hold hands at a pre-event on July 20 (local time).

Amid this, a shift is being detected in ASEAN's approach to resolving the Myanmar crisis. In Manila, Philippines, an expanded informal consultation addressing the implementation of ASEAN's peace initiative for Myanmar, the 'Five-Point Consensus', was held yesterday (July 20), followed by the 59th ASEAN Foreign Ministers' Meeting today (July 21). Related schedules, including the post-ministerial conferences with dialogue partners, the ASEAN Regional Forum (ARF), and the East Asia Summit (EAS) Foreign Ministers' Meeting, will continue until the day after tomorrow (July 23).

Will ASEAN's new engagement mark the beginning of dialogue that accelerates peace in Myanmar? Or will it become a process that restores legitimacy to a military junta that has made no concessions, such as halting violence or releasing political prisoners?

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The profile of Deputy Minister Sai published on the website of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Myanmar's National Unity Government. After serving as a university professor, Deputy Minister Sai has served as the Deputy Minister of Education and is currently the Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs for the democratic National Unity Government (NUG) following the military coup.

In an exclusive interview with SBS, Sai Khaing Myo Tun, Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs of Myanmar's National Unity Government, stated, "We have not seen any progress in the implementation of the 'Five-Point Consensus,'" adding, "Attempts to normalize the military at this point are inappropriate." Deputy Minister Sai particularly urged, "ASEAN must not fall into the trap set by the military," calling for the voices of democratic forces to be reflected in ASEAN's policies.

War Continuing for Over Five Years Since Coup... "Fighting Every Day Across the Country"
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Myanmar's National Unity Government Deputy Foreign Minister Sai conducting a video interview with SBS

Deputy Minister Sai described the current battlefield situation in Myanmar not as one side having a unilateral advantage, but as a seesaw battle where the military and resistance forces repeatedly capture and lose territory.

[Sai Khaing Myo Tun, NUG Deputy Foreign Minister: "Currently, fighting is taking place every day across the country. In some cases, the military tries to occupy areas we control, and in other cases, we occupy some areas. You could say the situation is somewhat back and forth."]

He said that civilian casualties continue as the military's airstrikes and ground attacks persist.

[Sai Khaing Myo Tun, NUG Deputy Foreign Minister: "Civilians are suffering greatly from the military's gunfire, torture, and attacks targeting civilian areas. We are doing our best to support the local people, but the military does not care about them."]

Deputy Minister Sai also mentioned that the military is receiving support from some countries. However, he avoided giving a specific answer, stating that he did not wish to publicly disclose which countries they are. When asked about the roles China and Russia play in maintaining the military's power, he expressed a principled stance, saying that neighboring countries must accurately understand the actual situation in Myanmar and help build sustainable peace.

[Sai Khaing Myo Tun, NUG Deputy Foreign Minister: "The people of Myanmar hope that neighboring countries will help uphold the principles of peaceful coexistence. We also respect the sovereignty of all nations and expect the same respect in return. If Myanmar falls into a difficult situation, it will also negatively affect neighboring countries."]
Military's Claim of 'Transition to Civilian Rule'... "Solidifying the Military's Role in Civilian Politics"
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Myanmar President Min Aung Hlaing (right) and Laotian President Thongloun Sisoulith. The Myanmar regime, which rebranded itself from a military junta to a civilian government, is expanding its scope of activities by resuming contact with ASEAN (Association of Southeast Asian Nations), with which relations had been severed since the military coup.

The Myanmar military held general elections in three rounds from December last year to January this year. In elections where major democratic parties and opposition forces were excluded, the pro-military Union Solidarity and Development Party (USDP) seized control of parliament, and on April 3, the pro-military parliament elected Min Aung Hlaing, who led the 2021 coup, as president.

Although the military advertises this as a 'transition from military rule to a civilian government', criticism continues in the international community that it is an attempt to repackage military rule in the form of a civilian government. The cabinet of the new government is also mostly comprised of former military officers or pro-military figures. Deputy Minister Sai argued that the military is not pursuing a genuine transition to civilian rule, but is instead trying to entrench its dominance in civilian politics.

[Sai Khaing Myo Tun, NUG Deputy Foreign Minister: "What the military is doing now is solidifying their role in civilian politics. They are not making concessions for the welfare or development of the people and the country."]

He emphasized that the military has repeatedly used violence and oppression against forces that do not follow their policies, and that the international community must not take the military's claims and promises at face value.

[Sai Khaing Myo Tun, NUG Deputy Foreign Minister: "If others do not follow their policies, the military uses force. They use force to suppress activities on the ground. They do not know democracy, they do not know human rights, and they do not know federalism."]

In Myanmar, ethnic minorities have demanded autonomy, equal rights, and the preservation of their cultural identity for over 70 years. However, Deputy Minister Sai explained that while the military claims to be the force defending national unity, it has failed to practically guarantee the rights of ethnic minorities.

[Sai Khaing Myo Tun, NUG Deputy Foreign Minister: "Ethnic minorities have demanded autonomy, equal rights, and the right to preserve their culture for over 70 years, but they have not received them. Even the 2008 Constitution failed to guarantee the right of ethnic minorities to have their own identity."]
First Face-to-Face Contact Between Foreign Ministers Since Coup... NUG Excluded from the Consultation

ASEAN adopted the 'Five-Point Consensus' in April 2021 to resolve the Myanmar crisis. The core of this consensus includes an immediate cessation of violence, constructive dialogue among all parties, mediation by an ASEAN special envoy and a visit to Myanmar, and humanitarian assistance. However, the military has not implemented the agreement. Consequently, ASEAN has refrained from inviting the military's political leaders to high-level meetings, such as summits and foreign ministers' meetings.

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On July 12 (local time), ASEAN and Myanmar foreign ministers held an informal meeting in Bangkok, Thailand, and took a photo. From right: foreign ministers of Myanmar, Laos, Indonesia, Brunei, Singapore, the Philippines, Thailand, Malaysia, Vietnam, and Timor-Leste.

However, a change has been detected. Following the first face-to-face meeting between ASEAN foreign ministers and the Myanmar foreign minister since the coup on July 12, a consultation attended by the military's negotiation committee and some ethnic armed organizations was held on July 13. However, the NUG was not invited to the consultation on July 13. Deputy Minister Sai stated that the NUG has not received any official explanation from ASEAN or the Philippine government regarding why they were excluded from this consultation.

[Sai Khaing Myo Tun, NUG Deputy Foreign Minister: "We do not know the reason why we were not invited to the meeting on July 13. No one has officially told us or confirmed why we were not invited."]

He claimed that the military has historically used a so-called 'divide and rule' strategy, contacting opposing forces individually to weaken the solidarity between the democratic camp and ethnic minority groups.

[Sai Khaing Myo Tun, NUG Deputy Foreign Minister: "In the past, the military used a divide-and-rule strategy, inviting certain individuals to divide the solidarity of other stakeholders. We will not fall into that trap."]

However, the Philippines, which holds the ASEAN chairmanship, maintains the position that the ASEAN special envoy is contacting various stakeholders in Myanmar, including the NUG, separately from specific consultations. Philippine Foreign Undersecretary Maria Theresa Lazaro, the ASEAN special envoy, stated that she will continue engagement with all stakeholders, including the NUG and ethnic armed groups, and will report the outcomes of the relevant consultations to the ASEAN Foreign Ministers' Meeting in Manila.

"Military Must Not Be Invited Without Progress on the 'Five-Point Consensus'"

Deputy Minister Sai did not say that he unconditionally opposes ASEAN's contact with the military itself. However, he emphasized that high-level engagement should not be expanded before the military takes tangible steps, such as halting violence, releasing political prisoners, and engaging in inclusive political dialogue.

[Sai Khaing Myo Tun, NUG Deputy Foreign Minister: "I believe the military should not be invited when no improvement has been confirmed in the implementation of the 'Five-Point Consensus'. A foundation must be laid for the de-escalation of violence, humanitarian assistance, and inclusive and constructive dialogue."]

Deputy Minister Sai said that the release of political prisoners and a cessation of violence must precede the return of the military leadership to high-level meetings, such as ASEAN summits and foreign ministers' meetings. He particularly criticized the military for talking about reconciliation and peace while failing to present a concrete stance on the practical implementation of the ASEAN 'Five-Point Consensus' or the conditions for political dialogue.

[Sai Khaing Myo Tun, NUG Deputy Foreign Minister: "The military is using the exact same old methods that past military rulers have used. They present conditions to justify their rule and talk about reconciliation and peace. However, they say nothing about the conditions that must be met before the implementation of the 'Five-Point Consensus' or political dialogue."]

The NUG also worries that the military's so-called '100-Day Peace Initiative' may not be a genuine inclusive dialogue, but rather a means to gain international recognition for the military's own peace process.

[Sai Khaing Myo Tun, NUG Deputy Foreign Minister: "They are targeting civilians and bombing them every day. ASEAN must not fall into the trap set by the military. The voices of the democratic forces must be translated into ASEAN's policies."]
To Negotiate Directly with the Military... "Condition of Not Returning to Military Rule is Required"
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Min Aung Hlaing, the head of Myanmar's military junta (Photo: AP, Yonhap News)

When asked if the NUG is prepared to negotiate directly with the military-led government headed by Min Aung Hlaing, Deputy Minister Sai replied that it must be guaranteed that there will be no return to military rule. He also emphasized that various parties, including the democratic camp and ethnic minorities, must discuss together how Myanmar will transition into a federal democratic union.

[Sai Khaing Myo Tun, NUG Deputy Foreign Minister: "A condition of not returning to military rule is required. We must discuss with our colleagues how this country will transition into a federal democratic union. (Omitted) There are also other factors we need to consider. We must have one policy, one strategy, and a collective voice."]
Aung San Suu Kyi Blocked from External Contact... "Unable to Confirm Location or Health"

Deputy Minister Sai stated that the NUG has no information regarding the health and location of State Counsellor Aung San Suu Kyi, who is detained by the military.

[Sai Khaing Myo Tun, NUG Deputy Foreign Minister: "We do not know anything about her. We have tried hard, but we do not even know where she is. It is a very difficult situation."]

When asked if they could confirm whether State Counsellor Aung San Suu Kyi is alive, he replied that the NUG cannot confirm it. He also said he had not heard of any claims that the military had allowed her to contact foreign government officials.

[Sai Khaing Myo Tun, NUG Deputy Foreign Minister: "Except for the military, we have not heard of her contacting anyone from the outside. We do not even know how they are treating her."]
To the South Korean Government: "Do Not Legitimize the Military, Expand Engagement with Democratic Forces"
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Myanmar democratization movement (File Photo)

Deputy Minister Sai also delivered a separate message to the South Korean government and its people. Expressing gratitude for South Korea's support for Myanmar's democratization movement, he requested that South Korea refrain from recognizing or legitimizing the Myanmar military as a lawful government and instead expand engagement with democratic forces, including the NUG.

[Sai Khaing Myo Tun, NUG Deputy Foreign Minister: "I would like to ask the South Korean government and its people to continue supporting our country's efforts for democracy. I am very pleased that successive South Korean governments and their people have stood with Myanmar's democratization movement."]

[Sai Khaing Myo Tun, NUG Deputy Foreign Minister: "We request that the South Korean government engage more with democratic forces. It is important not to legitimize the military."]

Deputy Minister Sai also appealed for South Korea's support in the fields of education and healthcare, alongside humanitarian assistance.

[Sai Khaing Myo Tun, NUG Deputy Foreign Minister: "If possible, we would like to receive South Korea's support in humanitarian issues, education, and healthcare. This is because there are so many people who need help from the international community."]
Dialogue for Peace, or Normalization of the Military?

With violence and humanitarian crises persisting in Myanmar for over five years, it is difficult to deny that ASEAN's existing approach has failed to yield distinct results. Consequently, voices calling for direct dialogue with all parties, including the military, are growing. This is a realistic view that without meeting the military, it is difficult to bring about a cessation of violence, expansion of humanitarian aid, or political negotiations. Indeed, the Thai government recently stated that both the military and rebel forces are open to dialogue, expressing its willingness to broker peace negotiations in the future.

However, the issue raised by the NUG is not the dialogue itself. The problem lies in the sequence and method of resuming high-level contacts with the military without tangible steps toward de-escalating violence, releasing political prisoners, and engaging in inclusive political dialogue. Simply avoiding meetings with the military cannot end the war in Myanmar. However, a dialogue that fails to sufficiently include the voices of the democratic camp, ethnic minorities, and citizens who are the direct victims of violence is also unlikely to lead to sustainable peace. Whether ASEAN will utilize contact with the military as a means of pressure for peace, or open a pathway for the military to secure international legitimacy, is a question that the Manila meeting must answer.

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